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PostSubject: @SONICCCCCC   Tue Dec 03, 2013 2:21 am

I don't like Salvus Guard.

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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Tue Dec 03, 2013 3:04 am

You show your face after a few days and this is all you can say? :C

But yes, Salvus was stupid to begin with.
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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:41 pm

SONIC disband Salvus pls

or at the very least make them not be pompous assholes
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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:47 pm

You seem to dislike us because of one members actions...
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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:06 pm

No, I dislike the group as a whole, at this point.
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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Tue Dec 03, 2013 1:34 pm

I think Salvus is actually a Great division and I think we should keep it.
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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:54 pm

Oh look who it is. You FINALLY decide to get a post instead of staying on that stupid chatbox.

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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Tue Dec 03, 2013 4:56 pm

And yes. I believe Salvus guard is quite useless. And don't even get me started on the uniforms. If you do. I'll write a rant on how terrible they look.

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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Tue Dec 03, 2013 6:38 pm

I agree with Doopliss. The uniforms are terrible.
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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:02 pm

Salvus Guard is a division FEAR actually needs.

Change is good, and just because you can't get into Salvus Guard doesn't mean it's a bad division.

If you actually learned what we're about you'd appreciate us being here.
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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Tue Dec 03, 2013 7:33 pm

I agree with Cubyfan2 completely.

If we remove Salvus Guard, then we would return back into our former state of mind. We need to step out of that and make changes. Salvus Guard is one way to help this matter, we need Salvus Guard at the moment.

Salvus Guard is helping encourage discipline throughout F.E.A.R. either by patrolling or at trainings. We only allow those with strong potential in.

I'm not even in Salvus Guard, but I'm learning about it every day. Perhaps you should learn about it too.
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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:57 pm

Remember kids! ALAWYS listen to the person wearing an ugly uniform! #saracasm

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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Tue Dec 03, 2013 11:50 pm

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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Wed Dec 04, 2013 12:45 am

Salvus isn't necessarily a bad division, it's just a pointless one.

Cubyfan2 wrote:
Salvus Guard is a division FEAR actually needs.

Change is good, and just because you can't get into Salvus Guard doesn't mean it's a bad division.

If you actually learned what we're about you'd appreciate us being here.
Quite honestly, some of the members in Salvus are snobs and use that sort of excuse to justify it. Why does FEAR need it? What positive changes is it making? What makes it a good division? Why should we appreciate it? You didn't justify anything in your claims.

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I agree with Cubyfan2 completely.

If we remove Salvus Guard, then we would return back into our former state of mind. We need to step out of that and make changes. Salvus Guard is one way to help this matter, we need Salvus Guard at the moment.

Salvus Guard is helping encourage discipline throughout F.E.A.R. either by patrolling or at trainings. We only allow those with strong potential in.

I'm not even in Salvus Guard, but I'm learning about it every day. Perhaps you should learn about it too.
When I saw Salvus at my training sessions in the past, what surprised me is that they argued against some of my orders(showing their names, for example), as if they had a right to do that. I've only seen Salvus as a negative influence.

What exactly is our former state of mind? Undisciplined? I'd rather take that than the attitude Salvus puts off. It's basically another Replica Forces clone that we don't need, and it may make their own members quieter at training sessions, but also more proud and rebellious.

Why does Salvus exist? It's absolutely useless, and it's basically a Replica Forces clone/replacement. It's sort of like bragging rights;

"We're elite, so you should follow in our footsteps! Hey, we also get to interrupt the trainer whenever we want! Hey, we should band together like Salvus groupies! Woah, we also get to disobey the trainer orders also and not get in trouble? On top of that, we get more authority over the other members simply because we get to act this way? Heck yeah, Salvus Guard!"

And finally, the uniforms are indeed badly photoshopped. I'm an amateur, and I could do better.
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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:21 am

tl:dr
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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:35 am

Well if certain Salvus members are being asshats report it to Disav0w, instead of just keeping it to yourself tell him and then you can get it sorted.

Powerblade wrote:
basically a Replica Forces clone
Nope, RF are more focused on Offensive, SG are more focused on Defensive.
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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Wed Dec 04, 2013 4:53 am

Salvus is disrespectful in general, and like I said, isn't a necessary division. It just makes the members too proud.

Also, out of my entire post, you chose that statement? The whole Offense-Defense thing can be a single division, why do two divisions have to co-exist for the same sort of purpose? Aren't the goals for SG the same goals Replica tried to accomplish?
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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Wed Dec 04, 2013 1:28 pm

Except there is not a need for a "Defensive" at Trainings, At Alianor, anywhere.

At Alianor, every HR has some kind of OP weapon, and at this point, Salvus is just a squad of pompous meat-shields. And trainings are much worse. They always just turn out to be a band of people who think they have some right to be called "Exceptional".

I'm not even going to start complaining about the concept of "Only protecting certain HRs who Apply to Salvus".

And they follow you everywhere if you apply to be a "Protected HR". When I'm with Loz, playing public games, any number from 1 to 4 Salvus show up and do absolutely nothing but stand there and watch us do whatever the hell we're doing.
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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Wed Dec 04, 2013 2:26 pm

I will now attempt to answer this all truthfully;

Powerblade wrote:
Salvus is disrespectful in general
If you can tell me why you think that and what reasons caused this I may be able to explain or justify things, or I may not.

Powerblade wrote:
Also, out of my entire post, you chose that statement?
Yes, yes I did.

Powerblade wrote:
The whole Offense-Defense thing can be a single division, why do two divisions have to co-exist
It can be a single division but it isn't, I didn't decide that.Razz

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Aren't the goals for SG the same goals Replica tried to accomplish?
No clue, I don't know if RF use skype when defending or if they help with recruitment so I cant judge.

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At Alianor, every HR has some kind of OP weapon,
Wont be for long, I think in A3 everyone has to earn guns but I'm sure HRs will get something.

Discorded Doctor wrote:
Salvus is just a squad of pompous meat-shields.
Still don't know how we are pompous, would be great if you told us so we could change that.

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Turn out to be a band of people who think they have some right to be called "Exceptional"
Nope I don't think I have the right to be called "Exceptional" then again some Salvus might.

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When I'm with Loz, playing public games, any number from 1 to 4 Salvus show up and do absolutely nothing
Its actually quite rare we join a HR in a public game, and if we do we are usually invited over skype.

And that's about it, any more questions I will answer.
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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:05 pm

We all have our opinions, just some are wrong.

Hate Salvus Guard? Good
Like Salvus Guard? Even better.

We're working on reforming Salvus Guard completely at the moment, feel free to rant all you want - they don't care.

Salvus Guard isn't around just to make your life hell, It's helping F.E.A.R. out either you think so or not. We do a lot more than just bark orders at people, they have meanings.

Although, you do make very clear points as to what needs to be changed. Your thoughts into consideration.

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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:32 pm

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Salvus is just a squad of pompous meat-shields.
Still don't know how we are pompous, would be great if you told us so we could change that.
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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:38 pm

'meat shields' Ah. That'll never get old. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:42 pm

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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:44 pm

I'll agree with that. The uniforms are not good.

Then again, I doubt anyone will make new ones.
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PostSubject: Re: @SONICCCCCC   Wed Dec 04, 2013 7:58 pm

ExellentRachet wrote:
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Salvus is just a squad of pompous meat-shields.
Still don't know how we are pompous, would be great if you told us so we could change that.
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I don't know many Salvus that are like that too be fair, names and evidence would always help.
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